#928 Tech Titans: A Masterclass in Change Management with Ashley Goodall

Things are changing faster than ever, but don’t let it affect your team.

Today, we're talking to Ashley Goodall, leadership expert and bestselling author. We discuss why the management obsession with change is harming the people it's meant to help, how constant reorganization leads to learned helplessness and quiet quitting, and why the real goal should never be just change.

All of this right here, right now, on the Modern CTO Podcast! 

To learn more about Ashley's work, check out his website here.

About Ashley Goodall

I am an advisor, author, and executive. I've spent two decades working in the areas of leadership and human resources as a consultant, Fortune 50 executive, speaker, researcher, and writer. In my advisory work, I help companies and leaders navigate the swirl, and discover the path to sustained improvement in their people practices. In my writing, I explore the lessons from the real world that help people and teams thrive, and that make work a more human place for all of the humans in it. In my executive roles, I have created and instituted new approaches to leadership development, feedback, team performance, coaching, employee engagement, performance management, people analytics, and more. My first experiences of teams and leadership were as a student musician and conductor. I was fascinated by the unspoken understanding between people playing together and carried this fascination into the corporate world. Before starting my advisory practice, I spent six years as a Senior Vice President at Cisco, where I led organizations focused on leadership, on teams, and on research, and which took on some of the most challenging questions about work. What is special about the best teams? Why do we follow one leader and not another? How can we measure our experience at work reliably? And how can we take what matters most to people and embed in into our people practices and systems? Prior to Cisco, I spent fourteen years at Deloitte as a consultant and as the Chief Learning Officer for Leader Development. My most recent book, The Problem with Change: And the Essential Nature of Human Performance, looks at why change is hard on people, and what we can do to draw its sting. It has been named the Porchlight Books Best Management and Culture Book of 2024, a Financial Times Best Business Book of the year, and a Globe and Mail Best Business Book of the year.